No. If anything, EU nukes could be something to consider. But I don’t see why Germany specifically should have them. That might lead to calls for every other European country to get them too and that could just as easily be a security risk as an advantage, with single countries possibly “going rogue”, like Hungary. In the hands of the EU they should be fairly safe.
Well if the EU gets nukes i would imagine there would be a clause that allows for a return strike wihout voting and only a first strike being banned completely or require voting.
Since there are only minutes to launch a return strike voting over it is completely pointless.
Yeah, that’s what I had in mind as well. Of course there would be no voting with vetos over a nuclear strike. It would be an immediate response to a nuclear launch towards our territory, nothing else. There shouldn’t ever be an option for a first strike in my opinion.
Yeah, “EU” solutions to security just seem so naive. Do we really expect a German national to put their country’s security on the line if need be? Long term, what would prevent French, German, Spanish, whatever exceptionalism from rising and infecting EU leadership?
No. If anything, EU nukes could be something to consider. But I don’t see why Germany specifically should have them. That might lead to calls for every other European country to get them too and that could just as easily be a security risk as an advantage, with single countries possibly “going rogue”, like Hungary. In the hands of the EU they should be fairly safe.
EU nukes? Hungary would veto their use even if Russian missiles were raining down on European cities.
Well if the EU gets nukes i would imagine there would be a clause that allows for a return strike wihout voting and only a first strike being banned completely or require voting.
Since there are only minutes to launch a return strike voting over it is completely pointless.
Member states already have mutual defense pacts that overrule any competing EU dictates in time of war.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Security_and_Defence_Policy
So Hungary can veto whatever they want, but defensive actions will be taken regardless.
Yeah, that’s what I had in mind as well. Of course there would be no voting with vetos over a nuclear strike. It would be an immediate response to a nuclear launch towards our territory, nothing else. There shouldn’t ever be an option for a first strike in my opinion.
This is a reason why there is a push for an EU military. Right now, there isn’t a functional EU body which can launch the nukes.
Who decides about the use of these nukes? Ursula von der Leyen?
Yeah, “EU” solutions to security just seem so naive. Do we really expect a German national to put their country’s security on the line if need be? Long term, what would prevent French, German, Spanish, whatever exceptionalism from rising and infecting EU leadership?