• Gates9@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    1 year

    Israel and Netanyahu in particular made sure that Hamas was the only game in town in order to have a suitable adversary to justify annexation and genocide

  • middlemanSI@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1 year

    It’s way past time to make Israel leave back to their border and start rebuilding Palestine. Israel pays for most of the bill, since they destroyed most of it. Genocide trials start in a year or so, after all evidence against both parties is sorted.Sounds good?

    • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      1 year

      It’s way past time to make Israel leave back to their border

      “Israel” has no borders. It’s just whatever land the zios can steal from Palestine, Syria, Lebanon, etc.

  • Ksin@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1 year

    The majority of isrealis support genociding the palestinian people.

    The majority of palestinians support genociding the isreali people.

    There will be no peace in the region, not now, not in a hundred years. Not until the last man has slain his last enemy will that holy land be free of violence.

    • Saleh@feddit.orgEnglish
      1 year

      That isn’t true Palestinians do not support genociding Israelis in a majority. Most just want the land back Israel stole from them and life in peace. It is part of Israels propaganda strategy to create an idea of “both sides” for catching the people that they cannot catch with the lie of “Evil Arabs vs. poor Jews”.

      Creating an idea of equivalence between the side that runs one of the most advanced surveillance, occupation, torture and mass murder regimes, fueled by dozens of billions of Dollars in international support every year and the side that has been victim of almost a century of oppression, ethnic cleansing and recently genocide, only able to fight back with small arms and improvised weapon, is just absurd.

  • biofaust@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1 year

    Finally the population is getting the real point. This is a sentiment Europe and the UN should be investing in.

      • REDACTED@infosec.pubEnglish
        1 year

        That hamas is cancer and Palestine will never be truly free under them?

        • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
          1 year

          Oh yeah absolutely, but they’ll never be free under the Israeli boot either, and at least Hamas’s boot won’t starve the whole damn place to death.

          • REDACTED@infosec.pubEnglish
            1 year

            I actually can’t tell you which one is worse if someone asked me that question. Israel is definitely trying to make nazis proud, but at least they would not personally execute my whole family just because I’m not a muslim who listens to music.

            One personally wants to kill me, other one is doing the killings already

            While they’re victims, obviously everyone including me leans towards giving Hamas benefit of doubt, but I feel like if roles would be reversed, you’d see a genocide on the levels not redditors could even defend it

            Note that I’m not talking about Palestinians, but Hamas, which is a different breed

            • Uruanna@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1 year

              but at least they would not personally execute my whole family just because I’m not a muslim who listens to music.

              Man, they are literally executing anyone they see for just existing in Gaza. Americans, health workers, ambulances. They literally said that babies born in Gaza are already terrorists. They make prisoners confess that they are Hamas by threatening to drone their whole family. So yes, they do execute your whole family just because they live there.

              • REDACTED@infosec.pubEnglish
                1 year

                I’m genuinely not aware of most things you mentioned, but to be fair I live in east Europe and my head is full with Russian invasion right now

                • Doorbook@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  1 year

                  Then maybe you should not speak of something you don’t know or care about and focus on what is going on around you especially the part where “Israel votes against UN motion condemning Russian invasion of Ukraine”

                • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                  1 year

                  So you can tell who is worse in this situation? The genocidal invaders, right?

                  Not much difference.

            • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
              1 year

              Gaza already has Christians so clearly they’re not executing people just for not being model Muslims.

              you’d see a genocide on the levels not redditors could even defend it

              That is simply not based in reality. Hamas does some horrid things don’t get me wrong, but they’re fundamentally an authoritarian state rather than a genocidal state.

              • biofaust@lemmy.worldEnglish
                1 year

                And we never saw one turning into the other when authority struggled?

                • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                  1 year

                  Yes. The zio regime turned genocidal almost immediately upon its inception. It was always the explicit plan.

                • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
                  1 year

                  Mostly no? Struggling authoritarian states seek, among other things, war, but they do not as a rule commit genocide. That’s mostly a fascist thing.

            • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              1 year

              I actually can’t tell you which one is worse

              Who is worse: the people committing genocide or the people suffering from it? It’s not a complicated.

          • biofaust@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1 year

            I don’t see why, in a world in which the UN, who literally created the State of Israel of thin air, exists, we have to assume that, within or outside of the Palestinian population, Hamas is the only possible interlocutor for Israel.

            This is a huge assist to Netanyahu.

            • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
              1 year

              Hamas is the only possible interlocutor for Israel.

              That’s because almost no established government is willing to support armed resistance against Israel. Dialogue will not save Palestine.

              • biofaust@lemmy.worldEnglish
                1 year

                I have the impression you are envisioning a much more violent response to Israel than what is needed or would be actually favorable for the Palestinian population.

                Remember that Israel is nothing without what the US and Germany, mainly, provided for decades.

                • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
                  1 year

                  I have the impression you are envisioning a much more violent response to Israel than what is needed or would be actually favorable for the Palestinian population.

                  I’m not sure what you mean; what situation are you talking about here? Because under the current status quo Palestinians only have one means of resistance and that’s violence.

        • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          1 year

          Zios have been invading Palestine, stealing land, and murdering people for more than a century.

          Hamas is just the current excuse.