- floofloof@lemmy.caEnglish1 year
“They have backed up their genocidal rhetoric with a program to develop nuclear weapons.”
Netanyahu’s not in the best position to accuse others of genocidal rhetoric backed up with powerful weaponry.
1 yearThe U.S. intelligence community assesses that Iran is not actively pursuing a nuclear weapon
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The IAEA flagged that Iran had amassed more near-weapons-grade uranium in its May 31 confidential report.
The report sternly warned Iran was now “the only non-nuclear-weapon state to produce such material” — something the agency said was of “serious concern”.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-12/iaea-finds-iran-in-breach-its-nuclear-obligations/105411014
Just like those weapons of mass destruction, way back when in Iraq? I’m shocked, I say, shocked!
- torrentialgrain@lemm.eeEnglish11 months
I don’t think that allegation has been made, just that they have began the process of building a bomb.
- torrentialgrain@lemm.eeEnglish11 months
I don’t think that allegation is completely implausible. Although it will probably be impossible to independently verify for a number of years.
- Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish11 months
It’s good old Projection: every accusation is an admission.
Are they running out of people to murder in Gaza? Or do they just need someone to fight back, so they can look oppressed?
- NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish1 year
Neither. Internal politics in Israel threatened to break up the government, and starting a war with Iran was the easiest way to stop that. Can’t break up the government now, we’re in a state of emergency!
Bibi would sooner burn down all of Israel than step down from power.
Yep, exactly this. He’d rather destroy the entire country than lose power, in part because as soon as he loses power he’s likely going to prison for the rest of his life.
- Grimy@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
The moment they stop fighting is the moment they have to collectively come to terms with what they have done as a nation. Netanyahoo has to keep it going.
- Archangel1313@lemmy.caEnglish1 year
The US is obligated by law, to keep sending them weapons in order to maintain a “qualitative military edge” against all potential threats. This unfortunately incentivizes Israel to maintain a high threat level, in order to increase the amount of weapons it receives.
obligated by law, to keep sending them weapons
Can you expand on that?
There are agreements but to which extent are they binding? I guess they are not unconditional.
- Archangel1313@lemmy.caEnglish11 months
This explains it in better detail than I could. It isn’t so much a single law, but rather a lot of different laws that all work together to ensure that Israel is given everything it could possibly need for its own defense…even bypassing normal regulatory measures in the process, as long as certain conditions are maintained.
Israel has invested tens of millions of dollars lobbying for, and helping to write, the legislation that guarantees their continuous access to weapons. A lot of it is written directly into defense spending bills that are essential for domestic defense spending as well. So, without a massive shift in policy at the legislative level to disentangle those priorities, that support is legally binding.
- YappyMonotheist@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
“By law”. It’s just a convenient excuse for genocidal immorality. It’s not like words on paper matter to anyone in power in the West, you’d definitely be blind to think otherwise.
- corsicanguppy@lemmy.caEnglish11 months
You had me in the first sentence; not gonna lie. The second one, though, just goes off the rails.
“The West” is a bit too broad don’t you think.
I think that’s blinkered, if not blind. Definitely.
And that username… (edit: oh look they just changed it from “ArgumentativeMonotheist” to “YappyMonotheist”)
The US is obligated by law,
Yea, that’s a law we passed, right? One which we could repeal, too?
- 1 year
Trump started all this shit when he ruined the last nuclear deal in his first term.
He sure is great at fucking everything up, and sowing chaos.
Wonder if this is what the US missiles redirected from Ukraine went to….
Lol, but the media keeps saying… "Trump was against this! He was trying to work with Iran "
- ProvableGecko@lemmy.worldEnglish11 months
There isn’t a dearth of missiles. This is just another convenient excuse to weaken Ukraine.
Here are the global knock-on effects of Trumpism. The world has been afraid of this for years. And mind you, it’s not because the USA is losing its grip, its role of world police. It’s because of fucked-up diplomacy dominated by egomania, backing the wrong allies in the wrong way. And being so dumb that you’re easily exploitable.
I’m sorry for once again seeing every conflict through USian eyes - Americans do that well enough by themselves - but in this case it’s just true. Fuck Trump, Fuck Netanyahu. Let’s hope this nightmare ends soon.
From the article:
A U.S. official told CNN that the United States had no involvement or assistance in the Israeli strikes
Um, sure. No involvement at all during the last 8 decades.
And Netanyahu:
“This is a clear and present danger to Israel’s very survival. 80 years ago the Jewish people were the victims of a holocaust perpetrated by the Nazi regime. Today, the Jewish state refuses to be a victim of a nuclear holocaust, perpetrated by the Iranian regime.”
Of course they stick to that one however nonsensical it has become, considering Israel is the Nazi regime now, inflicting its own holocaust on others.
Can’t keep himself from bragging even as his PR people try to tone it down.
- 11 months
You make it sound like slavish devotion to Israel isn’t bipartisan.
- ProvableGecko@lemmy.worldEnglish11 months
Because the State department policy is bipartisan because the hegemony is bipartisan
- Mrkawfee@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
The Zionist regime is a rogue state. It threatens the security of mankind.
Unfortunately it also has the backing of a much larger rogue state.
That’s 3 countries and Palestine, which is also a country in my book.
“Defense”
- torrentialgrain@lemm.eeEnglish11 months
Someone please explain why two middle eastern states trying to annihilate each other is WW3.
- torrentialgrain@lemm.eeEnglish11 months
I mean yeah, democratic decline, dwindling ressources and climate change are putting the world on a path to a lot more conflict. This is going to be the new normal going forward if we don’t manage to stop the underlying problems. Doesn’t mean there will be a massive world war, but it definitely means there will be more significant wars.
- psx_crab@lemmy.zipEnglish1 year
Will not, world war cost a lot for the country involved, this might just be another regional war and proxy war combined.
- BigDiction@lemmy.worldEnglish11 months
Crazy that within just a couple weeks Ukraine and now Israel have successfully smuggled drones into a country. Terrifying new vector of war.
- BigDiction@lemmy.worldEnglish11 months
Sorry I read that in a different report here: https://apnews.com/article/iran-explosions-israel-tehran-00234a06e5128a8aceb406b140297299
Israel’s military said about 200 aircraft were involved in the initial attack on about 100 targets. Two security officials said the country’s Mossad spy agency was also able to position explosive drones inside Iran ahead of time and then activate them to target missile launchers at an Iranian base near Tehran.
- ProvableGecko@lemmy.worldEnglish11 months
Defense contractors will win, we will be poorer and Iranians will be slaughtered by the millions.
What will the USA and Israel do? Bomb them to death and? Invade? Without an army in the ground you can’t really win. Which of their lackeys can they send, the turks? The saudis? Good luck with that.
- torrentialgrain@lemm.eeEnglish11 months
Take out the Iranian regime that’s holding their country hostage and Iranians will do the rest themselves.
