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World News@lemmy.mlby☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
1 year

Al Jazeera: "It is not Trump that betrayed Ukraine. Those who set it on a path to full-scale war with Russia did."

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    It is not Trump that betrayed Ukraine
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    Those who set it on a path to full-scale war with Russia did.
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    • ryedaft@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1 year

      So… Russia?

        • eldavi@lemmy.mlEnglish
          1 year

          ukraine was a pawn and was convinced that things would be better if they joined nato.

          • EmpireInDecay@lemmy.mlEnglish
            1 year

            The United States is the only reason that Ukraine is in war with Russia.

            • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.mlEnglish
              1 year

              Somehow history began AFTER I was born crew

              • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
                1 year

                weird way to say the USA https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html

                  • JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca
                    1 year

                    Lol, they’re calling you out!

                    We encourage you to explore this report and its accompanying research brief. However, because Russian entities and individuals sympathetic to Putin’s decision to invade Ukraine have mischaracterized this research in recent weeks, we also encourage you to explore this helpful resource on Russia’s “firehose of falsehood” approach to propaganda and our research on “Truth Decay,” which is a phenomenon that is driven in part by the spread of disinformation.

                      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
                        1 year

                        Ah yes, imagine being gullible enough to fall for the disclaimer that people have “mischaracterized” their research that just happened to describe the exact scenario and benefits for the US. 🤣

                    • JesusTheCarpenter@feddit.uk
                      1 year

                      Also, if only there could be more than one country stabbing the other in the back.

                      • Typotyper@sh.itjust.works
                        1 year

                        The Russian bots and trolls are out hard here. Not you, the others throwing shit at you

                        • adarza@lemmy.caEnglish
                          1 year

                          russia is the correct and only answer.

                          ukraine was literally no threat to russia. no ‘western’ or european nation is a threat to russia if russia would just gtfo and quit invading its neighbors.

                            • eldavi@lemmy.mlEnglish
                              1 year

                              ukraine is not a threat to anyone, but the united states is and ukraine let the united states fool it into thinking they could join the american side despite geopolitical hazards like russia and trump or warning signs from history like latin american; the middle east; or europe after ww2.

                              • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
                                1 year

                                Russia is the correct and only answer only if you’re utterly clueless of history and geopolitics.

                                  • blarth@thelemmy.club
                                    1 year

                                    Oops, what’s this?

                                    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum

                                      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
                                        1 year

                                        Oops. what’s this?

                                        https://responsiblestatecraft.org/us-russia-nato/

                                        https://natowatch.org/newsbriefs/2018/how-gorbachev-was-misled-over-assurances-against-nato-expansion

                                        https://truthout.org/articles/us-approach-to-ukraine-and-russia-has-left-the-domain-of-rational-discourse/

                                        https://truthout.org/articles/noam-chomsky-us-military-escalation-against-russia-would-have-no-victors/

                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_agreements

                                        50 prominent foreign policy experts (former senators, military officers, diplomats, etc.) sent an open letter to Clinton outlining their opposition to NATO expansion back in 1997:

                                        George Kennan, arguably America’s greatest ever foreign policy strategist, the architect of the U.S. cold war strategy warned that NATO expansion was a “tragic mistake” that ought to ultimately provoke a “bad reaction from Russia” back in 1998.

                                        Jack F. Matlock Jr., US Ambassador to the Soviet Union from 1987-1991, warning in 1997 that NATO expansion was “the most profound strategic blunder, [encouraging] a chain of events that could produce the most serious security threat […] since the Soviet Union collapsed”

                                    • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
                                      1 year

                                      NATO encroachment is a threat to Russia.

                                        • commander@lemmings.worldEnglish
                                          1 year

                                          Not really.

                                          It’s a threat to Putin, who is the greatest threat to Russia.

                                          Just look at how many Russians are dead for his war.

                                            • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
                                              1 year

                                              Take a look at Libya to see what happens when NATO helps depose the leader.

                                                • commander@lemmings.worldEnglish
                                                  1 year

                                                  Removed by mod

                                                    • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
                                                      1 year

                                                      You’re literally talking about how NATO is a threat to Putin, the leader of Russia.

                                                      I’m just saying, look at Libya to understand what happens next.

                                                        • commander@lemmings.worldEnglish
                                                          1 year
                                              • commander@lemmings.worldEnglish
                                                1 year

                                                Whatever happened to NATO’s guarantee for Ukraine’s security if they got rid of their nukes?

                                              • commander@lemmings.worldEnglish
                                                1 year

                                                Whatever happened to NATO’s guarantee for Ukraine’s security if they got rid of their nukes?

                                              • commander@lemmings.worldEnglish
                                                1 year

                                                Yeah, we’re definitely not pointing the finger at the right people.

                                                Whatever happened to NATO’s guarantee for Ukraine’s security if they got rid of their nukes?

                                                • sonofbalkans@lemmy.mlEnglish
                                                  1 year

                                                  riiiight, an article written by a russian shill: Leonid Ragozin

                                                    • TheOubliette@lemmy.ml
                                                      1 year

                                                      Everything I Don’t Like is a Russian Plot: A Baby’s Guide to Geopolitics

                                                      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
                                                        1 year

                                                        Wow, what an amazing and well thought out counterpoint. Bravo!

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