You must log in or register to comment.
- Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish1 year
Is the right to roam really worth the loss of the fundamental freedom to shoot someone who steps on your lawn?
- LowtierComputer@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
Absolutely not!
*continues polishing automatic, sawed-off, pistol grip shotgun
- LowtierComputer@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
I’ve actually shot one and while it was weird and uncomfortable, the recoil wasn’t that bad. Owning one is kinda stupid though.
- SupraMario@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
The reason people don’t like people wandering onto their land is the usa…is getting sued. The amount of lawyers here which will take a case for anyone or any reason is insane. Even if the person knows they won’t win, you who are getting sued, is going to lose money and time because you’re going to need to pay a lawyer to make sure you don’t lose your clothes by the sueing party.
It sucks, thankfully we have a ton of parks…for now.
- NIB@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
Some countries have it, not all or even most. Sweden is not representative of the entirety of Europe.
In Greece you arent even allowed to camp outside of very limited designated camp sites(though laws in Greece are more like suggestions, so many people still go camping in forests).
1 yearIn Greece you arent even allowed to camp outside of very limited designated camp sites
Same in Germany
though laws in Greece are more like suggestions
Not same in Germany 😅
- abbadon420@lemm.eeEnglish1 year
There’s plenty of forests and countryside where you could pitch a tent just fine. At worst, you’d have to talk to a farmer to ask if you can pitch your tent on their land.
- Kekzkrieger@feddit.orgEnglish1 year
Tbf, from first hand experience i can say people are fucking animals when it goes to camping. We used to have places where it was tolerated but people shat and pissed everywhere. Left their garbage behind, food waste attracted animals etc.
People are unbelievable stupid, so they kinda had to ban it and force that ban.
- exasperation@lemm.eeEnglish1 year
i can say people are fucking animals when it goes to camping
It took me reading the rest of your comment, and a lot of thought, before I realized you were using the word “fucking” as some kind of intensifier instead of as the word for “having sex with.”
Same. I was like, wow, that’s really bad behavior while camping.
- 1 year
You have the right to roam. We have the right to organize a nazi party. Which society is freer? /s
- abbadon420@lemm.eeEnglish1 year
You do not have the right to organise a nazi party. You only have two parties, no others are allowed. One of them accidentally turned nazi. That is something completely different than “organize a nazi party”.
- 1 year
You can organize any party you want. Only one of two has a chance of winning
- abbadon420@lemm.eeEnglish1 year
I that same sense me and my wife have a right to get pregnant, but I got my tubes tied.
- federal reverse@feddit.orgEnglish1 year
Mmmh … You can start a new party in the US. If it’s really successful, it may supplant one of the two parties that are there. The issue with the system, however, is that all incentives are aligned against more than two parties being successful at the same time.
That’s a bit different from you (cis male, I guess) becoming pregnant, in that you actually don’t have the right hardware (meatware?). I guess comparing with your 58-year-old mother-in-law becoming pregnant may be more apt. ^^
- abbadon420@lemm.eeEnglish1 year
You seem to know your inclusive gender terminology well, why not inclusive pregnancy terminology? So, I’m talking about a classical man/woman relationship. Sure a woman carries the embryo and she does all the heavy lifting (pun intended). I’m not saying it’s an equal divide. But a man also shares in the pregnancy. We very much experience hormonal and psychological change as well. https://www.menshealth.com/health/a19529157/how-pregnancy-affects-the-father/
That was not the point of this thread, but you got me triggered.
- lesatur@lemmy.wtfEnglish1 year
What exactly are you talking about?
The video is from an American expat living in Germany with her family. Her video is originally in English.
YouTube started a feature where they auto translate videos to your assumed language. Might that be the case here?
- Silic0n_Alph4@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
Your Lemmy client is fetching and displaying a preview of the link. YouTube has decided to give you a German-language preview for some reason, maybe based on your geolocation, VPN, or settings.
Op is innocent on this one!
- Fedo ¶@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish1 year
I stopped pretending being smart a while ago, so I’m genuinely lost 🙃 Also I don’t speak German, except I only know “kunsthistorisches” for some reason
- Fedo ¶@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish1 year
Exactly. But also when studying art history you find it on the captions of the manual
- ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyzEnglish1 year
- Korhaka@sopuli.xyzEnglish1 year
I know, this is why I said England rather than UK. Not sure on Wales/NI. Either way, not really a practical option to get there.
- Aux@feddit.ukEnglish1 year
England has limited right to roam plus public right of way. This effectively means that most land is accessible one way or another.
- Korhaka@sopuli.xyzEnglish1 year
The vast majority of land isn’t open access though. Most woodlands and fields are privately owned and you are not allowed to walk through them.
- Korhaka@sopuli.xyzEnglish1 year
Only if there is a public footpath through it. Otherwise you are trespassing if you don’t have the land owners permission
- Korhaka@sopuli.xyzEnglish1 year
You would typically walk around the edge of it, but you don’t have permission to do that either and we don’t have the right to roam here. Also not all land is agricultural fields, pasture and woodland for example.
- Tiger@sh.itjust.worksEnglish1 year
Great content, as someone who “stealth camps” often I would love that openness. Thank you for sharing.
- Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.worksEnglish1 year
The right to roam specifically does NOT include camping though.
- Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish1 year
The video said in some Nordic countries it does, you just can’t be in close proximity to the land owners house.
- Tiger@sh.itjust.worksEnglish1 year
Ha no, but I like his content. He camps like that just for the camping like that, but I do it because I’m out kayaking or similar and just need to camp somewhere.
- dtlm@feddit.orgEnglish1 year
In Spain its also forbidden to own beaches. You can wander any beach with no restriction.
- 1 year
In Estonia, one may not prevent passage along the beach of a body of water (sea, lake, river).
Some land owners try. It’s legal to ignore them and travel along the shore, but if a river valley is densely settled and every tenth person has built a fence too far, it becomes somewhat harder to fish there.
As for dry land - if it’s not fenced in, then from dawn to dusk, without damaging crops or landscape, one is allowed to roam on foot, with a bike or boat, on skis or riding a horse.
Unless the owner forbids:
- by default, it’s allowed to set up a tent for up to 24 hours
- by default, it’s allowed to pick the fruit and herbs of naturally growing plants and mushrooms (not planted or sown) and fallen wood
Making a fire is another matter. For this, getting the agreement of the owner is required. It’s also totally forbidden by fire departments at certain times.
