In 6 hours it will be illegal to say “I support Palestine Action” in the UK, with a sentence of up to 14 years in prison.
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- fluxion@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
Israel has the world wrapped around it’s genocidal finger. Trump likes to talk about how “unfair” it is when other countries get any sort of aid, but Israel has us uprooting everything we’ve built to AVOID ANOTHER HOLOCAUST while slurping down more aid than Ukraine who is taking on the world’s most belligerent superpower
- 1 year
Seeing how so many Israel apologists have so much power is like seeing a headmaster defend the school bully, but much, much worse. they’re always like “NEVER AGAIN” about the Holocaust yet they’ve made a piss poor effort at preventing a genocide that’s happening right now and are actively pouring petrol on a fire
11 monthsSo many people are afraid to say it, but it’s Jewish money that’s bought them off. You used to be called antisemitic if you talked about Jewish people running everything like it was a conspiracy theory, but the past few years have proven they run things or can buy those who do.
- 1 year
The government bundled the law with ban of other groups like a neonazi group to force voting for the law
- 1 year
The complicit media will talk about how those who voted no for proscribing a neo nazi group as a terrorist group instead of saying they voted no to putting palestine action as a terrorist group
- ohulancutash@feddit.ukEnglish1 year
No-one’s interested in those obscure groups. Palestinian Action is the story.
No one cares now, but they would be made to care after being blasted with “Parliament votes against considering neo Nazi groups terrorists” headlines 24/7. That was the stick here. I’d still have liked them to take a stand, but this was a pretty coercive tactic.
- ohulancutash@feddit.ukEnglish1 year
Not particularly. They could have amended the bill to exclude the one group. Maybe the tabs would try it.
- 1 year
Unfortunatly mainstream media still have lot of influence on general public intention
- Nosavingthrow@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
I don’t know what it is about Israel that has made politicians the world over lose their minds.
- 1 year
Europe ia still controlled by racism and neocolonialism
- Nosavingthrow@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
Of course, but, Europe also has a long history of being antisemitic. It just seems weird to me to fall over yourself for an ally that doesn’t seem especially valuable. Maybe there is some 4d chess that is lost to a peasant like me.
- Saleh@feddit.orgEnglish1 year
It is convenient. By claiming unwavering support for Israel you can distract from your own antisemitism and blame it on brown people. This comes in especially useful to ramp up racism against the very same people you blame for your own antisemitism.
Israel plays along in this game, as they profit both from racism against brown people letting them get away with more crimes as well as profiting from cases of antisemitism, as it allows Israel to claim it is needed for Jewish safety.
- 1 year
Which recent Europeen leaders and major parties has antisemitism policies?
- Nosavingthrow@lemmy.worldEnglish11 months
By your definition of recent, I don’t know if I could. Of course, I don’t really agree that 25 years or even 30 years constitutes recent, and my ability to name a specific policy in that time frame doesn’t erase nearly 2 thousand years of Anti-semitism in the hearts (and sometimes law) of Europeans.
- 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.worldEnglish11 months
learn the term PEP
Progressive Except Palestine.
they are all nice and progressive but as soon as Palestine comes out, they flip flop or go full right wing and change sides.
- Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish11 months
At least this is just one group of palestine supporters. In the US you get deported for any sign of support for palestine.
- Corngood@lemmy.mlEnglish1 year
Another hearing is scheduled for 21 July when Palestine Action will apply for permission for a judicial review to quash the order. In the meantime, and unless the judicial review is successful, membership of, or inviting support for, the group will carry a maximum sentence of 14 years in prison.
So they have a hearing, and presumably legal representation, but they can’t legally have any members at the time of the hearing? What a load of shit.
- WanderingThoughts@europe.pubEnglish1 year
Seems a good way to destroy the legitimacy of the government. That’s not representing the will of the people.
- Ice@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
Finding out part of fucking around.
Countries don’t usually take kindly to people or organizations that break into military bases and vandalize equipment.
- 1 year
And? that equipment was being used to further a genocide against the Palestinian people. half of which are children. just because a government considers something unlawful doesn’t mean it’s morally wrong
- Ice@lemmy.worldEnglish11 months
that equipment was being used to further a genocide against the Palestinian people.
[Citation needed]
- PTSDwarrior@lemmy.mlEnglish11 months
All that equipment was going to Ukraine, which is also undergoing a genocide by Russia. They just happen to have a proper military, unlike the Palestinians. This was not a good move, and the protesters were probably coopted by Russian agents.
- 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.worldEnglish11 months
protesting genocide by any means if more ethically current than following the law.
We’re taking about genocide, the worst crime known to manking.
- Ice@lemmy.worldEnglish11 months
Doing something that gets your org banned by a government that isn’t even the one you’re protesting seems not only ineffective but counterproductive to me.
Censorship laws in the UK are quite dystopian, but even in less authoritarian countries, this kind of action would result in serious consequences.
- 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.worldEnglish11 months
meanwhile, said state is profiting from a genocide by selling weapons to murder starving children.
still, said state has no moral high ground.
and said protest made the news.
if your state isn’t trying to ban you, are you even trying to change anything?
or you should ignore protest where there state says using state approved methods, this way your protests is just a gathering that’s trivial to ignore?
