I disagree, I’ve always thought it was pretty ugly. Too bulbous looking. The new one looks like a “normal” controller, but oversized to accommodate the track pads. Still not a looker, but at least it isn’t so bulbous. Also, glossy plastic can smd.
Sounds like you don’t know what a scam is. A scam is when something is promised but not delivered, not when you think something is overpriced.
And want to play all of their games on the couch. And want to take the time to make controller mappings. It’s definitely a bit niche, but possibly a large niche.
As someone who spent $150-$200 on the Xbox Elite controller just to get the rear paddles, $100 for this with the rear buttons and the track pads seems like no problem at all. Imo it’s incredibly fairly priced as compared to the competition, considering the features and emphasis on repairability.
It’s because the SteamDeck 2 is on the way right?? Right???
I’d also agree that there isn’t a lot of value to the product, I know I wouldn’t buy one. I mainly just wanted to point out that there is definitely room for innovation and such in the space, and a phone controller that’s as nice as the SteamDeck controls doesn’t exist.
I mean, no phone controller has the same layout as the steam controller. If Valve could implement the software to support steaminput when streaming games to a phone from your PC or a cloud PC, that’d be kinda cool.
I’m also not saying I’d buy it or that Valve should make it, but a controller with feature parity with the Steam Controller would be an innovation.
The SteamDeck also has a touchscreen. If you’re using your phone to stream games from your PC, I’d imagine that track pads would be much better, similar to with the SteamDeck.
I personally have no use for playing games on my phone with a controller, that’s why I bought a SteamDeck, but there could definitely be room for innovation, both in hardware and software, especially if you take streaming into account. A good steam-input supported controller could turn your phone into a killer game-streaming machine.
Why could a phone controller not have innovations such as those? You mentioned track pads yourself.
So do normal controllers. So did gaming handhelds. So do PCs. So do VR headsets. I’m not sure what your point is.
The Steam Controller is going to be an amazing way to navigate a desktop environment via the couch. I’m honestly as excited for it as the other hardware. The track pads are amazing.
Of course, in regards to streaming, you will be limited to 1080p or 720p because DRM. I might mention that one might consider other means of viewing ones content if doing so legally isn’t an option.
The Crew series still exists, 2 and Motorfest.
I’ve been on Linux for nearly a year now, and the biggest losses for me personally have been GTA Online and The Crew series.
Unfortunately my TV is not one of your homies.
Yeah, that’s what I meant. Haven’t had 64GB in my deck for a long time.
Or the lowest GB version and upgrade - though the 64GB is no longer available, so I’m guessing that’s less economical than it was.
Edit 64, not 16
I haven’t used consoles for gaming in so long I forgot about that haha, good point.
You probably do have a point there. The SteamDeck did manage to make it to the point where people that couldn’t give a rats ass about Linux have picked them up, so I’d say it’s possible, though maybe not likely.
Twice as expensive? Cheaper than $700 is not twice as expensive as $500.
Sure, it’d be nice if it were $500 or less, but from what I understand, it isn’t possible (I’d love to be proven wrong). PS is able to sell hardware at a loss to then recoup that loss in game sales. The Steam Machine is a PC. You don’t have to buy anything from Steam to use it after you buy it. It cannot be sold at a loss - though I wouldn’t be surprised to see Steam Machine packaged with games during sales to make it a better value for the same cost or something.
Moving from fact to opinion, I think the steam machine, for under $700, could be considered a better value than a PS or Xbox, for two reasons. The first is Steam Sales - you’ll probably save a couple hundred bucks as compared to buying the same games on a console. Secondly, and more importantly, it’s not only a gaming console for your living room, but also a PC for your living room as, when combined with the Steam Controller, I can’t think of a better way to use a full desktop on my TV. The SteamDeck track pads make it totally practical to use a normal desktop without a mouse and keyboard. They’re amazing for mousing, scrolling, and typing. I’ll probably buy it for that alone - though the lack of support for DRM protected media might force me to continue using my Xbox as a media console - though I might also tell media platforms where to shove their DRM, becuase it obviously isn’t working if I can acquire their media from other sources.
Tl;dr: it will likely be more expensive, as it can’t be sold at a loss or tight margins - but cheaper games and the fact that it’s a full fledged PC for your TV could make the additional cost make sense.
I love the back paddles on the elite. I find them perfectly sensitive and satisfying to press, and I find the back buttons on the SteamDeck to be too difficult to press. But yeah, durability is a notorious issue on those.