And Syria took a decade to crumble after Obama started in on it.

The US didn’t give up in Vietnam until it had been involved for over a decade.

Only time will tell however I suspect this is strategic dishonesty and narrative manipulation. Specifically planting these seeds of ‘honesty’ and doubt they can reference back to in 15 years to claim they were impartial and not totally rags of the bourgeoisie and Anglo-American imperialism. They know if they get caught just being stridently wrong for years that hurts public trust in them which lowers their propaganda value to the bourgeoisie and empire planners. But if they can pivot like this, even if they don’t stick it out they can point to this and claim, oh we got that one wrong but we had dissenting opinions and we can change, we can change, which is the same kind of narrative America uses to convince its population it’s not an amoral evil empire and hasn’t been since inception. Admit to crimes in the past or when they’re already mostly done, say you’re sorry for the crimes or they were wrong. Claim to have changed and learn from them, continue committing new crimes, repeat the cycle forever and the poor saps, the indoctrinated children will believe they live in a country that can change and was flawed but constantly improving instead of just constantly inventing new crimes and victims and excuses.

This is also what is so foolish about the conservative rage about schools allegedly teaching kids to “hate America” by teaching about past crimes and atrocities. They don’t understand that it’s a relief valve. That it teaches those but also whitewashes the crimes and allows new ones by constantly apologizing for the past but never changing the present. And without that kind of valve if you have any kind of educated population you have problems as people start connecting the present to the past. Probably why they also want to gut education entirely and replace it with Evangelical fundamentalism.

So IMO, no forgiveness. This is a cynical ploy, if you weren’t condemning ‘israel’ as an apartheid occupation settler state before Oct 7th and you were in a position to have an educated and informed opinion like being a journalist then you’re scum. If 8 months after Oct 7th deep into the accelerated phase of the open genocide which has been continuing at various tempos for half a century you were not against them then you’re scum, you’re an apologist for genocide, you’re Goebbels. If you weren’t acknowledging the legitimate right of Hamas to violent resistance and therefore the legality of Oct 7th after a year you were on the side of the genocidal oppressors in muddying the waters at the least.

This is also I think part of the pivot to heap blame for all of this on Netanyahu, to basically put this all in his lap. To say yes atrocities against humanity (they’ll waffle on genocide as the right term) were done but they’re all the fault of this one guy, not ‘israel’ as a whole which has always been and will always be a settler colonial project built on genocide and land theft and religio-racial supremacy. And certainly that the west is blameless and didn’t know. Absolutely at all costs that it wasn’t the west doing anything wrong. That way once they kick Bibi out of office there they can claim the zionist project has changed because that one uniquely bad man is gone, ignoring the massive support his genocidal policies have, ignoring the massive documented racism and hatred and genocidal intent among the entirety of ‘israeli’ society. They will do this to save the greater project of ‘israel’ as a western colonial outpost by sacrificing one leader and a few other usual suspects in the sphere of public opinion condemnation. And they will do this to pretend their own hands are and always were clean and that they were just duped, misled by this scheming Jew and oh wait they’re doing classic anti-semitism but they’re allowed to do that because it’s been redefined as being against ‘israel’ and anything else including literal Nazi salutes is liable to be defended by the zionist entity and their western backers.

Anyone else in this position would do no such thing.

Trump is in this position because he wants to do this AT LARGE SCALE.

He doesn’t care about being cruel to a couple of people, it’s about getting the precedent and go-ahead to deport millions of people. What happens to this one guy is much less important than the precedent of at the very least being able to deport without due process. Ideally he and his friends would like to be able to deport without courts being able to order them to bring people back after the fact so they can just purge a bunch of people from the country.

Bullshit. Why would you believe it’s good faith? Why wouldn’t you want rules written down if they’re to be enforced? Rules should be spelled out clearly to be fair and transparent.

They may enforce it for a little while, but they can now quietly drop enforcing it and no one will notice because it will be a change documented internally only.

This is a transparent attempt to manage the outrage.

Reminder that the US has been a treaty-violator from the beginning of its existence. Breaching numerous treaties with the Native Americans.

A good idea. The rule of the law is increasingly a foreign concept to the US, the law of the jungle more favored and hypocrisy a favored way of living.

A dictator would never offer to step down.

Not good logic regardless of whether you think Zelensky is or is not a dictator. A dictator might if the terms he demanded for it were those that both parties of the conflict had already ruled out.

Making an impossible ask is hardly a sign of being reasonable or truly willing to do a thing. If I tell you I’ll give you ten million dollars but only if you can settle the mess in Palestine with the the “israeli” state and the Palestinian people permanently I’m not seriously offering you ten million dollars, my ask is impossible. No one would say it’s a good faith offer on my part.

Trump’s team has acknowledged NATO is not viable and doesn’t even want to commit US troops in the event of a ceasefire (something Russia refuses anyways), preferring it be a Europe problem and Russia categorically will not accept Ukraine in NATO. This is a FACT.

This conflict started over eastward NATO expansion, one of the primary, if not the most primary goals of Russia in their fight is to stop Ukraine from becoming part of NATO and stationing western weapons/troops there near them.

Russia is winning and the support of the US is waning. They are not going to accept having spent all that treasure and blood and taken all these sanctions and in the end not get their primary goal just to get Zelensky to step down for another person who hates Russia.

The thing is. Alcohol can be used in for example cooking. Cigarettes have no good purpose, nothing you can really do with them that has utility outside of direct consumption that exposes you to the full health risks.

And at that point I fear you’re also diminishing the unique harm and danger of cigarettes which produce second hand smoke which exposes others, including kids to health dangers without their consent.

How about we slay the first demon here before starting to equate another lesser one with it? Most people do not have a risk of getting addicted to alcohol, nearly everyone has a risk with a few tries of getting addicted to nicotine and it’s spreading like a plague among children with candy and sweets flavored cartridges for the poison that is e-cigs. This undoing a generation of progress.

It really does risk making more people dismissing the unique dangers and threat of nicotine and smoke products by equating the two and risks creating a DARE moment where the whole thing is just mocked by rising anti-science, anti-expert sentiment spurred on by capitalists eager to undo regulations. I mean things like this are catnip to people like RFK who want to torpedo evidence based science in favor of vibes and snake oil because it presents an in with your average person to criticize the health establishment over at least misplaced priorities.

Drinking on its own is a danger to the drinker. Only when done to excess does it endanger others. Smoking at all produces second-hand smoke and can encourage others to join an addictive behavior that is very, very hard to quit and will be a monkey on their back for years, decades after they stop whereas MOST humans can stop drinking alcohol with less ill effects than stopping daily consumption of caffeine.

Any amount of alcohol is a carcinogen and unhealthy, but at the same time we have to ask what level of risk is okay. Any amount of charred food cooked on charcoal is also a health risk for instance and can lead to exposure to carcinogens. The unique problems of cigarettes and nicotine were always impacts to others who didn’t make that choice including children trapped with smoker parents as well as the addictive properties which left most users trapped or facing a hard fight to stop as well as bad behaviors by industry to hook people while they were young and down. Yes the alcohol industry also tries to get teens and young people to drink but nearly all of them can just stop after they leave college and go on to have a healthy life with zero or limited interactions with alcohol, you cannot say the same for someone who starts using nicotine and uses it heavily for even 6 months.

He does have a MASSIVE constellation of satellites used for his shitty internet. What if. Just what if part of their defense shield idea is sneakily using Starlink satellites brilliant pebbles style to take down incoming missiles by just dropping them out of the sky in the path of incoming? Or putting some sort of secret payload on them that enables them to do a bit more than just drop.