Ok. So explain where the investment is. What does “eating the loss” do for them in the long term? How do they recoup that loss? Loss leaders (the Costco hotdog, PlayStation consoles etc) are used by businesses as a way to get people to buy into their other products that do make healthy profits. Costco’s hotdog gets people in the door, and those people buy other stuff because “while we’re here”. There’s a psychology to that strategy.

Sony uses sales of the PlayStation consoles to get people locked into their platform where they spend money on games, and skins, and micro transactions etc. People used the PlayStation to play Blu-ray (also a Sony property), and DVDs, and stream content like movies, and music. This nets them healthy profits while selling the hardware at or below cost.

Nintendo is said to do the same thing with the Switch/Switch 2. So there’s a cost to benefit ratio equation going on in each case.

What is the cost to benefit equation for Valve selling the Steam Deck at a loss? Their e-shop doesn’t depend on the hardware to sell games. They aren’t locking people into Steam in a way that’s meaningful because other hardware exists with the same or better ability to play all the same games. The Steam e-shop doesn’t require you to only play games on the Steam Deck.

So that’s where you lose me.

Uninstalling allowed grub to boot Bazzite normally with no errors for me so right now that’s maybe the best we can hope for. I also don’t want to re-install all my plugins.

Did you try uninstalling and reinstalling?

Also, perhaps just checking for updates? When I checked for updates I could see that there was a new update for decky loader but at that point I had decided to uninstall it anyway to prevent future problems.

So, I’ve been looking into this for myself and it looks like what’s broken is the MagicPods module in deckyloader. If you previously installed that, you can try uninstalling decky and then re-installing it and leave that module out of the reinstall/setup process and see if that works.

At this point I’m gonna leave decky uninstalled on my system mostly because I’m pretty tired of it breaking.

I normally have to go in (uninstall just deckloader), and reinstall deckyloader when this happens. There’s no way that I have found to do it otherwise and it’s happened to me at least three times now.

I’m sure there probably is another way, but I haven’t had success with anything but the uninstall/reinstall method.

So, I don’t know what information this is based on, but I’m questioning it.

High end gaming rigs come in pre built, for people who want that kind of warranty, or, more often in my experience, the people who own them build them. Which means they’re not super fussed about installing a different OS.

It’s more likely that some subset of them play games that require windows (VR, some racing sims, competitive online games that require kernel level anti-cheat etc), and won’t switch because of that.

There may be some subset of the gaming populace who wants that without the fuss, and usually they buy consoles. Computer gaming is what it is because people very often like control.

I’m a tinkerer at heart, and one of my older brothers used to build custom gaming rigs as part of his business back in the early 2000’s. Most of my family and quite a few of my friends have been computer gamers for decades.

I’d be willing to wager that a fair number of computer gamers aren’t bothered about the installation process of steam OS, but might be wary of limiting the games they can play using it.

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I already have some issues with my public tone sounding… Too official. Using the em-dash just makes it seem like I might be a bot. I’m not going to bother with that.

I like the em dash and am very upset that AI has stolen it.

Aestik it’s been on my wishlist for awhile and I don’t see a reason not to pick it up at the current sale price.

Nothing. I did this with two different handhelds. The main problem that I’ve run into is that the built in controls don’t work as well as if they had been natively supported and I would be more than willing to have a fix for that with an official steam OS distro if one was available. The point is, a closed mouth don’t get fed. If they don’t think people want this they aren’t going to dedicate time and resources to it.

Same. I don’t see how this could be a bad thing for steam OS and the naysayers are out in force.

Linux. They should do Steam OS. Their main downfall right now is windows and the price point. But for the price they often offer better hardware. Steam OS is a much better experience than Nintendo’s ecosystem and the dockability of these handhelds is already on par with the switch. They can do a lot more than the switch and switch two will be able to do with more game availability and game streaming as well.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/dlss-3-added-proton/

You may want to update what you said because they will soon do so.

Be warned that it’s big. The screen is beautiful and I really like that aspect of it, but I’m more comfortable with the ROG Ally x because of the size. That being said, I have small hands and I know others didn’t have this problem with it.

The Legion Go has a touchpad. I think even the newer one that’s been announced has an (albeit much smaller) touchpad.

I also own a legion go and yes. Yes it does.

Yes actually. I wish they did not.

Bit late and way more expensive than either of the docks I actually own. In fact I own two docks and together they cost less than $80.

Yep.