Well sure, they knew this was a likely outcome - because they know the Israel government is batshit. The purpose of the mission was aid and activism. They definitely knew that arrest was likely, but that’s not why the did it. They didn’t want to be detained. They just want to help the people of Gaza in whatever way is within their power. This is how they chose to do it.

It may not be perfect, but it’s definitely more effort and effect than doing nothing. And the more people who get on board with some actions, the more likely they are to succeed.

Counterpoint: I haven’t noticed that being a trend until this thread.

I honestly don’t have a strong sense of how Tate can be so popular. But if I had to guess, I’d say the “no sense of community” is probably the biggest thing.

The internet has become a gathering place where communities and social bonds are formed. I can imagine a heap of people who are struggling socially in the real world seeing, and then seeing Tate and his community offer an ‘answer’ to that - supporting those who feel rejected, and putting the blame squarely on others. That’s what I see as the draw that brings people in. They feel safe and secure in their haven of hatred. Any opposition to them is from people that are weaker and less important. – Which then makes leaving the group almost impossible, because you’d have to degrade your own view of yourself - joining the people who you think are weaker and less important.

So this Tate thing is rot that has taken root because of a gap in more healthy support structures. (I don’t see an easy solution for it though!)

The person you responded to just said that Trump is not the only problem, and pointed to the power of other elected members of the party. So when you say “you are so very wrong”, that seems to suggest that Trump is the only problem (since that was the main point being made); and your follow-up about the will of voters reads as a non sequitur.