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Gotta draw the line somewhere, and the left decided that genocide is that hard line that under no circumstances should be crossed.

If you don’t draw the line at genocide, then where exactly do you draw the line?

It’s a war like how Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, the Banana Wars, etc. were wars.

Fascists can never admit that they’re wrong, becauae then their vaneer of being infallible immediately falls apart.

I still remember back in 2015-2016 when 4chan called Trump “God Emperor.” That mentality hasn’t gone away. Fascism is a cult.

The only “truth” that fascists believe is the “truth” of the fascist leader. Trump even calls his social media platform “Truth Social” FFS. It couldn’t be more blatent.

So by that logic, are all Americans war criminals because Americans pay taxes, which go to fund drone strikes that murder civilians overseas, domestic militarization of police, prisons, etc?

This is the same logic as “all Palastinians support Hamas.”

Identical in the US, except the Nazi Party of America already won and is currently in power.

Chuck Schumer lmao

Yeah, but those phrases can apply to a whole lot of things.

Ah, the Putin method.

Woah, a foreign government attempting to interfere with the electoral process of a sovereign country by funding an extremist right wing party who intends to destroy the country from the inside-out?

Now where have I heard that one before…

I wonder how many other spies there are just in the AfD.

Maybe colonialism is the word I’m thinking of?

The one that involves forcibly taking land and mass murder, like what the settlers of America did to the Native American population.

The closest examples I can think of in recent history is the Vietnam war or the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. But yeah, American style imperialism is what I equate this to.

Netanyahu might as well be Dick Cheney.

This is closer to just standard imperialism, which Hitler also did. Evil? Yes, but a different kind of evil.

Also I think Israel literally has a concentration camp, so if you want to make that comparison, it’s right there.

Imperialism is horribly evil and it deserves to be called out by name. A part of the imperialist process is genocide, which is what we’re seeing here.

I wonder if there’s a money trail that can be traced back to a single source for both the German and US (and probably others as well) media outlets to corporatize/liberalize at around the same time.

The laws here directly reflect the wishes of corporations, including the relealing of the Fairness Doctrine, and there is a money trail showing which politicians took money from who for their political campaigns.

The Heritage Foundation also played a big role in influencing policy during the Reagan administration. These are the same people who wrote Project 2025.

It’s a few different companies over here (Fox, Sinclair [who controls basically all local media nationwide, John Oliver did a good segment on them], Newsmax, One America News, CNN, MSNBC), but same result that the media controls the Overton Window.

In 1987, America abolished the law that forced newsmedia corporations to cover the news in a specific way (which you can read about here). This has a massive negative effect on our media’s news coverage. It started to become just about ratings and profit.

Over here, it’s a bit of the opposite, but also the same in some ways, where the newsmedia controls our politicians and populous (especially Fox News with the Republicans). Behind the scenes, there are almost definitely dealings between Fox News and the Republicans that isn’t public. Fox News spent a significant chunk of the past 4 years denying the outcome of the 2020 election for the benefit of Trump.

It’s a half/half mix of our politicians being stupid/brainwashed by the newsmedia and also corrupt. I’m sure you’ve seen what some of our politicians have been spewing out of their mouths.

Same thing here, but with basically every industry and not just news media. We call it the “revolving door” effect.

In America at least, this is as a direct result of corporate media and money in politics both controlling the narrative. None of this was naturally occurring.

This reflects American politics as well.

I’m American and I use the term “liberal” specifically to refer to neoliberals. I’m probably in the minority, though, especially given Fox News and GamerGate calling everything they don’t like “liberal”.

I’m an American. I really hope the German masses can learn this lesson before it"s too late.

But you guys need to counter the hateful messaging against immigrants with an equally effective message against the people with power/money, otherwise, fascism is likely to win in the long run against neoliberalism, as we just saw in America after our long-term experiment with neoliberalism, which really kicked off in the 1980s with Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher.

In the 1990s, the American Democrats felt so defeated after having lost big time to Reagan and Bush Sr., so Bill Clinton decided the Democrats cannot “unilatterally disarm” and must start taking corporate money. This acceptance of corporate money led to their idiology becoming the same as Reagan’s idiology, and then the Republican party being bith opportunists and contrarians, took advantage of that situation by shifting further and further right (see: the ratchet effect), until they openly became fascists.

I’m not too familiar with German politics, but if anything I said applies, then heed my warning.