we have decided to ignore it the same way we ignored that an economy based on fossil fuel cars is not sustainable, the same way we ignored rotting and underfunded infrastructure, roads, rails, state and education institutions.

Seeing this sentiment from people in way too many countries right now…

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Idk, smoke it all at once and the lack of O2 might kill you through the smoke. But that’s not the THCs fault

And you would have a point if the man was an openly shitty person. For all you knew this was an otherwise respectable dude who still shared nudes of his partner. You can’t always tell shitty dudes ahead of time. Sometimes you can only know them when they are being shitty dudes.

Instead, you don’t have a point, you’re just looking to blame the victim.

How about calling it genocide vs even-more-genocide? Does that make the distinction any clearer between the choices that were available? Whether we like it or not (and I’m 100% in the latter group) ‘no genocide’ was not on the menu

Don’t get me wrong, I’m disgusted by the state of politics in this country, and would not have voted for Kamala had there been any other person on the ballot that had a realistic choice of winning. But the choice was what we had, and we knew the outcome was going to be bad but workable or fucking awful naked fascism. And so many people chose fucking awful naked fascism in the face of not being able to hold up their moral purity, and now make arguments like she would have done all the awful shit that trump was telling us he was going to do.

That’s why I said what I said. And if you actually read the article I linked above instead of taking what the other user cherry picked out, you’ll see that even the staffer who left because of Gaza said we should have voted for her for basically the reason of what we’re seeing happen.

Really fucking rich accusing me of not reading the article when you stopped reading as soon as your opinion was validated.

From the article, since you didn’t bother to read to the end:

The painful reality is that the movement for Palestinian rights has not acquired the political power necessary to stop the genocide that we have all watched unfold over the last year. And ultimately, it is progressive movements - not Harris and the Democrats - who will suffer the most under a second Trump term. We cannot abdicate our power within the Democratic Party, limited as it may be, for the sake of trying to punish the party’s leadership. We must block Trump and the fascist right, while at the same time demanding change from our leaders, continuing to agitate for an arms embargo with every resource we have.

And yeah, I 100% agree with the author. Her position is and remains mine. If you’d bother to read the whole article, you’d see that she’s telling you not to take the path you did.

This is why I said what I said, and chose not to respond to anything else.

Trump took a shit on your face and Gaza suffers more now, with zero hope whatsoever for any pushback from this fascist administration who applauds Israel’s every step

100%

It amazes me how far morons will go to justify tacitly supporting naked fascism for purity politics and their own moral purity in the face of the immoral outcomes of their choices.

Here’s one of her staffers explaining the difference, since the difference is so fucking hard for certain people to comprehend. It wasn’t going to be fantastic, but I stand by my statement that only absolute fucking morons think they would have been the same. Because those people can’t understand there are shades of awful or the difference between bad, and fucking gone.

That mentality is the textbook definition of cutting your nose off to spite your face. Voting for Kamala was attempting stem the bleeding, and people decided to cut a limb off instead. It’s a shame that so many more people are going to suffer for their choice. And I really hope the naked fascism that these people directly contributed to via tacit support (thanks non voters!) isn’t as bad as it will be, all because they wanted to play purity politics.

What do you mean, Kamala would have done the same thing!

• absolute fucking morons

When are they going to start the peace negotiation efforts before they stop them? Cuz all they’re doing is trying to conquer them and steal their resources currently.

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Lol, imagine thinking the USA and Russia would be on opposite sides when we have multiple Russian assets in the White House. And in Congress. And probably in the supreme court.

I was lucky enough to go there when they still allowed people to go up the temple at Chichen Itza, and it was pretty cool, but I couldn’t image just climbing shit they tell you not to. Especially when the reasoning is protecting heritage.

Honestly, he’s lucky he didn’t trip on the way down. Those stairs are steep.

The argument is probably that death spares him more suffering while being incarcerated.

The only part of that that doesn’t make sense is the citizens voting for it.

Racism. These policies are generally put forth with an implied wink and nudge that this will be used to target minorities. Unfortunately, they consider anyone outside of their tiny class and brainless minions to be a possible minority.

Israel has dived head first into being Nazis and they’re almost all fucking about it. They’re just happy they get to exterminate the jews be the ones doing the extermination this time.

The ‘problem’ the US has is only 1/3 of us have embraced being nazis, while another 1/3 doesn’t give a shit.

If only I had money…

Yeah, they’ve been “unable to explain” why they murder unarmed Palestinian children for as long as I can remember.

I’m fairly left as well, and whenever I brought up strategic voting I was swatted down with “genocide” like the other person. I was event told by multiple “lefty” users that they hoped Trump won just so it would hurt the democratic party and “teach them a lesson”. No matter that we’d be pouring gas on the fire and bringing shit home, they still had to TeAcH tHeM a LeSsOn. Ugh.

The only people who hate leftists more than rightoids are other leftists, and its for shit like that. Moral purity over pragmatism is no different than fanaticism in my eyes. As much as we may hate electoralism, its the only way to work within the system and not let fascists take over. But here we are.