

Gee I wonder if western media has done this with other conflicts


Gee I wonder if western media has done this with other conflicts


Europeans need to be reflecting on what kind of leadership they want to replace the US now that they’ve started stepping out.
For all the chaos they’re causing, especially in regards to this conflict, it’s not a bad thing that the US is losing geopolitical relevance. I just wish I had any confidence that something better would come from it.
Now is really the time for people to be organizing.


Jews and Muslims have had many extensive periods of peace living together (including in Palestine before the state of Israel). The story of Islamic-Jewish hostilities is actually fairly recent and shorter than you’d expect.
Antisemitism as we know it today is mostly a European export to the Middle East.


Idk man. If, just as an example, Biden “shot someone in the middle of 5th avenue”, i think it would be hubris to expect him not to lose any voters
You can call that ‘purity testing’ if you want, but I’d say that the expectation for it to have no effect is just wishful thinking.


Does it matter how morally bankrupt the 20% is?
Asking before I pose any analogies you might think is unfair


Id suggest the same to you.


“From the river to the sea” isn’t a slogan of genocide, it’s a slogan of the type of liberation we’ve been discussing.
If you can’t see the harm that law causes then I don’t know what else to tell you.


by your logic if the only response to one genocide is another genocide, then yes that is also pro-genocide
Yea, see this is the antisemitic version of zionism. Advocating for the liberation of Palestine isn’t the same as advocating for a genocide or expulsion of Jews in Israel. It would be like saying WWII was ultimately a genocide of germans, since they were violently resisted in their conquest of Europe.
Yes, the resistance against genocide will almost certainly involve violence - that doesn’t mean that advocating for resistance isn’t justified, or even that advocating for violent resistance isn’t justified. WWII would have been really short if we had rhetorically ‘opposed’ the holocaust, but banned any speech that even implied violence against Germans (including violent liberation to stop an active genocide).


On this account, sure.


One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws
Why should it be necessary to specify Israelis as deserving of equal rights in historic Palestine when it is Israel who denies equal rights to Palestinians and not the other way around?
Go ahead and ban me now if that kind of acknowledgment can get you in legal trouble - I have no interest in participating in a community that is comfortable suppressing criticisms against an ethno-religious apartheid state committing genocide. Fuck Israel and fuck the German collaborators.
Free Palestine.


Everything i disagree with is propaganda
Like that?


Lol, well, uh… then fuck you?
Jesus christ. Maybe i don’t care about Ukrainians or Europeans because they were mean to me once? If you think the genocide in Gaza doesn’t 100% have the risk of spreading through the Middle east and into Europe, too, I don’t think you’re worth the time. And anyway, those weren’t the genocides I was referring to.
Feels a little like you just don’t like Arabs or Muslims.


I see absolutely zero indication of this being right-wing propaganda.


I’ve seen a lot of mentions of other genocides on my instance, but what’s notable about the Palestinian genocide is that the US and the western world is directly involved in it.
Typically when I see this complaint it’s paired with a general vibe of wanting to deflect attention away from western atrocities. Not that I know enough to accuse you of that, but still.


Absolutely this.
Anyone denying the clear signals of despair from young voters is coping. Idk why anyone is getting mad at people demanding progress from dems at a time when there’s no risk of electoral losses - makes me think those people are actually just carrying water for ani-reform neoliberal fascists.


Just don’t do anything that’ll raise attention to your opposition to fascism, tho


Tell people they’re being oppressed, they’ll become defensive, then frustrated opposition will retaliate against their fallacies, and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Religion becomes more important than education, and the government gains more control over the people.
If you’re suggesting that even just pointing to existing oppression is going to lead to this ‘self-fulfilling prophesy’, then I think we have very different definitions of ‘complacency’ and ‘smart’.


That is a hell of a conflation, between vocal opposition to fascism and a fucking assassination attempt.
No, I don’t think anyone here is advocating suicide by amateur assassin cosplay. Even just dispassionately calling this as it is will be held up as ‘dangerous’ - it’s not at all about the optics.
If all you’re doing is just waiting for your next opportunity to cast a ballot, you’ve already lost.
Control and Alan Wake are the only reason I even have a favorite game studio, and probably the only one I’d actually do a pre-order with just to support development.
Id buy them both again if I could